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Then there was the talk of converting it into a hotel,a health centre & then a hostel for asylum seekersĪ local council candidate writes on his campaign website: There has been a lack of maintenance and the effects of squatting have resulted in the current poor condition of the building. When it first closed there were threats of demolition before the exterior got listed status. Some work started on the ground floor but was abandoned. The Lesley Arms was originally built by Croydon Brewers' Nalder & Colyer to be their show-piece pub (their brewery tap in Surrey Street, Croydon being unsuitable for this treatment). This landmark Grade 2 listed empty pub with its round tower was first featured on Derelict London over a decade ago and not much progress has been made since, following failed planning applications. Well, that Brighton poster wouldn't have lasted long by the door of this pub in the old days -) RIP smelly john :("Īnd one from Beer in the Evening reviews: "I would rather drink toilet duck in a crackhouse than frequent this dive again." Now if they can just sort out the bogs - it's like the shallow end of a paddling pool in there! Always wondered what happened to that guy. Oh, and now smelly John has popped his pants.I mean clogs, it doesn't smell like an exploded cat any more.
What is there not to like about the Manor.
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The pub is never likely to open again as plans are being put forward for conversion into flats.Ī happy memory of the Portmanor from a poster on the Crystal Palace fans forum: "Barmaids with Palace tops, Footie on the box, free food pre match and good music after.
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However the pub closed its doors for the last time after the landlord claimed that the pub company Punch Taverns failed to support him and install CCTV to comply with the terms of his licence. Croydon Council rejected an application by police in early 2014 to shut the pub down and dismissed suggestions the pub's customers were a cause for concern. This was hotly denied by Palace fans and other locals who blamed the local press for negative publicity. The Holmesdale Fanatics, a lively bunch of Palace supporters, drank in here and attracted the attentions of the police claiming that many of these fans were hooligans. Originally called The Signal, the Portmanor was a popular locals pub over the years and well known amongst home fans of nearby Crystal Palace FC. Yes the floor was at a dodgy angle, but the Landlord & Landlady had made their money whilst the Barrier was being built (as did the other local pubs!) and were seeing out their time till retirement. Matt Helm writes to Derelict London "I had one scary night down in Charlton/Woolwich one night where we were locked in one of the pubs at around 1:30am until the bloke outside with a grudge & sawn off shotgun sobered up and went home (can't remember if it was The Victoria or The Thames Barrier Arms)!"īarbara writes on the Derelict London Facebook page: "This was our pub of choice in the mid to late eighties. The whole pub sloped downwards, but it appeared better the more you drank!"
He was a classic of his kind and the destruction of the old building will take a magnitude of memories with it. He had two classic vanguards, with original paperwork, but dodgy VIN numbers and for our sins, we obtained an old Capri from him complete with dodgy MOT. The landlord was permanently drunk and the wrong side of the bar, he did bent MOTs and sold dodgy cars. Jane Grant writes to Derelict London: "I did indeed drink in there regularly with my husband and two friends in the mid-late 1990s. I took these photographs a few weeks before the fire when I was doing a live broadcast for the BBC London Vanessa Feltz show. Unless the building falls apart in the meantime… A fire ripped through the building in May 2019 when four fire engines and around 25 firefighters attended. Plans have been submitted to restore the building converting it into a takeaway and attach housing the the rear.
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After years of neglect and poor security the interior of the building has been gutted out and is full of pigeon droppings. Also many people commented on it's sloping floor due it being built on a gradient.ĭespite the beautiful exterior featuring the Truman's Brewery eagle symbol the pub is in a terrible condition and looks like it could collapse at any point as there are metal poles, in the fly-tipped rubbish strewn cellar, propping up the building. There are stories about numerous late night lock ins and it (allegedly) being the place buy dodgy cars or obtain bent MOT certificates. The Victoria pub, a derelict landmark along the route of the London Marathon, closed in the late 1990s and has received many comments since it first featured on the Derelict London website in 2003.